Keeping a relationship as a former incel, passing and failing shit tests, meditation on the emotional pain on losing the relationship

31 01 2017

I realize that on many incel forum online discussions people often talk about getting the relationship. However; few speak of keeping the relationship and dealing with the emotional pain of losing the relationship some incels spent a lifetime to finally obtain.

For the non-cel, many of them have a life time of practice on passing shit tests by women since middle school. For the incel they do not. To the incel who finally obtained the relationship, on the emotional level he clearly needs her more than she needs him. The common mistakes the former-incel would make is that he will try to please her every whim and desire, and be overjoyed at her approval, which in turn he will ultimately lose her respect.

Other mistakes in today’s world of texting would involve becoming anxious when the woman does not respond to his text in time, narratives of her dumping him would run through his head. The fear and the paranoia of losing the relationship stress on his mind.

In today’s society, due to women’s unchecked hypergamous nature the idea that she will one day walk out on you on a whim or cheat on you with an individual like Mr. J, is an unfortunate reality.

Former incels should meditate on these unfortunate realities like the samurai who meditate on his own death in the most horrific ways in battle, or dying of disease. The former incel should meditate on the possibility of the cheating partner, being dumped, her walking out on him on a whim, being nexted for a hotter guy, being divorced and half of his money, etc. This is a necessary act in handling the emotional pain even the most experienced non-cel might succumb to.

“Every morning a warrior should recommit himself to death. In morning meditation, see yourself killed in various ways, such as being shredded by arrows, bullets, swords, and spears, being swept away by a tidal wave, burned by fire, struck by lightening, dying in a earthquake, falling from a great height, or succumbing to overwhelming sickness. An elder warrior said, “Once out of your front door you are surrounded by death. Once you leave your gate you are surrounded by enemies.” This saying is not merely a parable, but a way to prepare for your fate.” — Yamamoto Tsunetomo, Hagakure





Reading Elliot Rodger’s Manifesto, some thoughts

29 05 2014

I recently read the early parts of Elliot Rodger’s manifesto. Needless to say his story sparked a lot of thoughts and emotions from me. Similar to myself, video games was a central part of his life in the younger years. Like him, I was obsessed with the latest console and technology. I had a non-existent social life in high-school except for the few I spoke with at the lunch period of misfits. I spent most of my time in game during my out of school hours, and it just seems that everything else in life are just things that got in the way between me and my games. Later video games became a major distraction for me in my academic pursuits as my obsession with it made me have trouble budgeting my time. It seems to me, many incels have video game addiction, even Aziz Shavershian before this transformation. I am wondering what-if Elliot made the same choice Shavershian did. Elliot was short and weak, only if he sold his WOW account for a gym membership.

 

What also struck me is that even though in his manifesto he talk of school experiences, he mostly mentions girls, friends, hobbies and popularity. Never once did I read about anything related to the academics. When I went to school, when I did not obsess with video games I thought of academic studies. Things like girls, fashion, sports, and popularity almost never occurred to me. When my peers busting their butts pursuing beer and pussy in college I was actually baffled at their obsession, as video games and school work occupied most of my thoughts. It wasn’t until I was in graduate school did I realize I had “girl problems”. Perhaps the eastern values I mention before had saved my sanity as long as it had…





Elliot Rodgers

24 05 2014

 

some of PUAHate posters already beat me in posting this.  It seems that he is a PUAHate poster as well. I am wondering..If he lived, how much love letters and nude photos will he get in prison/deathrow. We all know western women love violent psychopaths… He should do what I did and go fuck whores instead. Sex for money is the most honest transaction you will ever make with a western woman. Lets hope them retards turn this into another gun control issue and leave us incels out of the media.





Believable scenario?

28 03 2014

It has already been established that the American feminist society does not value decent men, where moral and intelligent men have the lowest sexual market value, do you guys see significant amount of moral decent men, particularly Asian/Indian Americans, expatriating? Will an “exodus” happen?





A question concerning modern dating is asked.

15 02 2014

I am wondering what you guys think:

Why is it that a lot of women who put up with physical and emotional abuse from bad boys have no trouble telling nice guy off for the slightest transgression?

Response from a woman:

With the ‘bad boy’ she is operating within a dysfunctional family dynamic — generally such a woman will have learned patterns of abusive relationships within her upbringing.  This would most likely be how she has observed her father treating her mother and girls within the family.  She will feel comfortable with this sort of behaviour, as bad as it might be.  It is what she knows and her ordinary systems of coping (numbing out or compartmentalising are examples) will click into place whenever it happens.

As crazy as it might seem, a ‘nice’ guy treating this woman well with cause her to feel distressed and panicky.  She does not have any emotional mechanisms for handling him.  She might be thinking: ‘If I trust him, will he hurt me when I let down my guard?  I better not let him see my vulnerability; I’ll attack him before he hurts me.” 

Being able to trust someone when your life experience tells you that this is dangerous is daunting.  A man dating this sort of woman needs to be patient and tolerate (to a point) her bad behaviour.  By not reacting to it she will eventually realise that he is not like the problem man in her upbringing.  She will start to let down her guard — well, hopefully she will.  It depends on the degree of her insecurity.  Undoing abusive situations is complex and can take years.

Be compassionate towards her.  She is reacting to a bad history, not the nice guy.  The reason why she can lash out in the west is because women’s rights are much stronger than in the developing world.  She feels safer to act out towards a man.

In a more conservative society women will suppress expressions of anger because it is too dangerous to do otherwise (bad things, all the way to murder, happen in retailiation to a woman’s anger in places like India). If a man in the West did such a thing he will be censored and legal action taken.





Are incel men actually a silent MAJORITY?

28 01 2014

on PUAHate and the loveshy forums, there are often arguments on what population of men are actually pure incel. Many claims the 80-20 rule, as women in our society are attracted to 20% of the best looking population of men, while the 80% either becomes the provider, learn to “game” or be incel.

According to the study on Love-shyness by Brian G. Gilmartin, 2% of the adult male population in the USA are virgin loveshies. That was in the 1980s when the study had been done. For the past few years I get to travel around the USA to many states from coast to coast, I seem to encounter many perpetual single men like myself everywhere I go. So my question is, the 80-20 correct? What do you guys think?

If I am the only incel on the planet, then I would say the problem is with me. But if I encounter incel men everywhere in all parts of this country, it shows that the problem isn’t with me, but the problem is with the fucked up western society.

However, if we are indeed a silent majority, why isn’t this a problem being addressed in the media?





a poll concerning the rare topic on personality

15 11 2013

It is established by many of the “red pillers” as PUAHate posters call them, that men who are the most successful on the dating market are in fact handsome badboys, while incels are their polar opposites, the ugly nice guys.  Indeed, death row inmates get love letters and nude photos from women, where as nerds from the school of Engineering and department of theoretical physics don’t.

the PUA gurus argue that confidence is what attracts women, and studies has shown that violent criminals think very highly of themselves, thus have a lot confidence and self esteem. The commenter Franklin, claims that due to radical feminism in the west women are in fact attracted to immoral, irresponsible, and criminal men.

personally, I have noticed that the type of criminal the western woman is attracted to are the joe-six-pack dumb thug, drug dealing BLUE COLLAR criminal, not the INTELLIGENT, scheming types(Adolf Hitler did not get much popularity from the ladies BEFORE he gained political power, joe-six-pack gets tail regardless of how much political power he has).

I would also predict that PUAHate posters will claim that the reason WHY women are attracted to thugs is that they have high testosterone thus are tall, athletic, have square jaw and have masculine (DOM) looks. Which of the choices do you agree with more? comments?

 








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