How do you see Mr. J.

20 09 2014

about a former roommate I had, lets call him Mr. J. He is of Indian descent who used to own a Bollywood movie store. His is a notorious adulterer who would have sex with his female customers in the back room, many of whom are married, have boyfriends, and have kids. In turn because he is so good at sex he gains his reputation, those women he fucked would go and tell their friends and they come and fuck him and his influence grows. I know what he said is true as he has his encounters recorded on video. He would tell me about it and brag about his sexual performance, and show me the sex tapes he made. He is the guy who cheated with just about every single customer that came to his store. I am wondering, do you view Mr. J positively or negatively?

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20 09 2014
Mongo

Negative, just for the videotaping and showing it to you. The women he banged didn’t give their consent to do that. About fucking whoever wants to fuck him…

Well, fuck him.

21 09 2014
P Ray

How “bad” of a guy can he be, if women decide he is good enough to have sex with?
After all, women say only the “men of bad character/creepy” are the ones that will never have sex, amirite?
Therefore, even drug dealers are “men of good character”, since women are never wrong in their assessment …

21 09 2014
Alberto Pérez Pérez-Duque

Oh, come on.
If that were true, we wouldn’t have like a million songs about “you’re a bad man because you fly from woman to woman”, for a start.

About the videoclub guy, I’ve got mixed feelings: if someone is really good at something, doesn’t he deserve fame and credit for his works? If this guy was hot, cared about his manners and looks, and really so good at sex, it’s good his reputation made him fuck many women, for he was clearly giving them a pleasure experience.

But keeping it on video without the women knowing (and if they were married, that can lead to trouble) is an asshole decision.

So: good at sex, but a potential bastard.

21 09 2014
survivingincel

an expected response from a liberal
I guess you don’t mind you wife or girlfriend fucking other guys while she’s in a relationship with you?

21 09 2014
Alberto Pérez Pérez-Duque

Wether the women are married or not, that’s not mr. J’s bussiness.
He only knows there’s a woman who wants to have sex with him, and he wants to have sex with her. You don’t know if maybe the husband was also a cheater, or the relationship was crumbling and she had no sex at all (as one of your commenters pointed in a former thread).

If the women were in a monogamous relationship, then it’s mostly their fault, not his (he was quite dumb putting himself in a position of risk if his employer or the husbands get to know, by the way).

A barman doesn’t ask the customers if they are alcoholics, neither a McDonalds employee asks their his fat clients if they have any coronary health issue before serving them.

About my girlfriend fucking other boys, I can give you the two answers: I was in an open relationship, and no one did care about the other one fucking other people (we both did and were open about it). But then I was later in a monogamous relationship, and then it was part of the deal to remain exclusive. Then it would have annoyed me to discover she fucked other people.

21 09 2014
survivingincel

see, thats the case. He knew that the other women are married but he fucks them anyway. Only under modern liberalism would his actions be applauded.

22 09 2014
P Ray

Oh, come on.
If that were true, we wouldn’t have like a million songs about “you’re a bad man because you fly from woman to woman”, for a start.

Women condemn in public, the guys they sex up in private;
and
commend in public, the guys they friendzone in private.

21 09 2014
Franklin

I agree with the Torah (Old Testament), Mr J and the married women who he had sex with should be stoned to death.

21 09 2014
survivingincel

Franklin, despite many individuals express disapproval of Mr J. They are showing disapproval out of envy, not because of morality. They wish to live the type of life Mr. J lives.

8 04 2015
Koreaninusa

“They are showing disapproval out of envy, not because of morality.”

What are you basing that assertion on?

I don’t envy him, and I disapprove out of morality. I am a Christian, and his actions are very harmful to himself and to others.

13 04 2015
survivingincel

I asked around and a lot of people approve of his actions…this is America, after all.

22 09 2014
Alberto Pérez Pérez-Duque

Death.
Because of a quick sex.

Applying bronze age laws is quite out of place in this century, I’d say. And stupid. They’re rules to govern goat shepherds from 1million years ago, when civil codes needed the backing of religion to validate their rights.

Also: What if the husband approves because has this cuckold fetish, has an open relationship or simply doesn’t care? What if they’ve got children? Would you utterly destroy two families without caring about it?

Or maybe you’re just being sarcastic and I just miss the point.

22 09 2014
Franklin

I am not being sarcastic, but yes you miss the point, and no I almost certainly can’t explain it to someone like you (modernist).

If the husband approves or has an open relationship then they shouldn’t have married in the first place. They should have just lived together.

Human nature hasn’t changed since the bronze age, so the same moral laws apply. Only human intelligence has dropped since biblical times, making people less able to understand the point of morality.

————————————————-
What has been is what will be,
and what has been done is what will be done;
there is nothing new under the sun.
Can one say about anything,
“Look, this is new”?
It has already existed in the ages before us.
There is no remembrance of those who came before;
and of those who will come after
there will also be no remembrance
by those who follow them.
————————————————-
Ecclesiastes 1:9-11

22 09 2014
Alberto Pérez Pérez-Duque

CERTAIN values have not changed. The ethics behind any major religion are “don’t harm anybody, don’t cheat, be good to others”. But I suppose -for example- you don’t like the idea of slavery, which was commonly accepted for all old religions. Or do you?

Quoting the ecclesiastes to a non believer is like me quoting you Carl Marx. I take it for its value as a base for a major religion in the world, not as Truth Revealed. And I’ll take slavery as an example of ” this is new”: Human Rights. The belief that no one should be a slave, that everybody can have freedom of speech, etc. The simple idea of this was heressy and a good way to get stoned if you voiced it.

The internet is full of ridiculous examples of holy books explaining why you should sell your sister as slave if she wears short hair, or how many goats are the adequate fine for someone who paints his house in green, and things like that. I suppose those rules don’t apply, but hey, they’re into the Holy Books. What makes them not valid but allows you to apply the ones you like?

Marriage is a contract. And certainly you can break a contract if you deem it necessary. It’s a contract between two people who set the rules and establish what’s a deal breaker. Maybe it’s cheating, maybe it’s they don’t love each other anymore, maybe it ‘s one of them turns alcoholic or he starts beating his wife.

There’s this old thing the romans invented called divorce. Divorce understants that things can change along life, that maybe you or your partner made a mistake, or simply it’s time to move on from this relationship.

Probably, most husbands would divorce mr J.’s lovers, because they felt cheated. Cheating is a contract breaker for most people, as it was in the bronze age. But you break the contract and move on, don’t kill anybody for that.

22 09 2014
survivingincel

remember now Mr. J has come between husband and wife. this contract usually means sex is only between the two individuals involved. This is precisely why in most cultures adultery is a crime, except for the west

22 09 2014
survivingincel

this is the text book example of the dichotomy of liberalism versus old world values

one says:
adultery is wrong because of the immorality of an outside individual outside of the marriage contract coming between the relationship of husband and wife, making matter worse if there’s children outside of the marriage involved.

other one says:
Adultery isn’t wrong because its their body and choice so they can do what ever they want.

Individuals like myself is fucked under a certain value system, so its pretty obvious where I stand.

seriously? cuckold fetish? I am not even getting into the details, but don’t you think you are making exceptions the rule here?

22 09 2014
P Ray

Here’s a tip that seems to have gone missing in the argument:
“A man becomes more attractive to other women, when he already has “proof” that another woman has validated him*, through a ring”
*he(single guy) may have bought the ring himself to look more attractive to “mate poachers”.
You’re welcome … since women cheat, men should too.

22 09 2014
Alberto Pérez Pérez-Duque

Cheating IS wrong. But it’s not the same to cheat and to have sex outside the marriage. Only if it’s done without consent from the other.

If you need to fuck other people so badly, get to terms with your husband/wife, and try to stablish an agreement. If the other consents is not cheating, even if it’s sex outside the marriage.

If you can’t get to an agreement about it and need so badly to fuck other people, it’s time to divorce.

About the cuckolding, it’s more popular than you think. Not wildly, but quite. Many men enjoy the idea of watching their wife bang other men, better if it’s in front of them. Believe me in that. Worked in porn, remember? I know a little about that.

22 09 2014
survivingincel

there are women that like Asian men too, just not as nearly as many

22 09 2014
Alberto Pérez Pérez-Duque

” don’t you think you are making exceptions the rule here?”

I believe most people would divorce if they find their couple is cheating. I used it as an example of You Never Know What’s Happening in other’s relationships.

23 09 2014
vegeta3

islam has the same views

23 09 2014
survivingincel

Sharia law is starting to make sense now

24 09 2014
P Ray

If you believe Islamic parents won’t conspire with their daughters to let them slut around, you are unaware as to the lengths parents will go to let their guilty children escape certain death.
vice.com/en_uk/read/vice-dj-mixes-vol-1
Sex In Tehran – My First Iranian Orgy
By Roxana Shirazi Jun 21 2011
On the flip side, innocent people can get accused by people who want to perform the ultimate cunt-punt / cock-block.
Removing your opponents in life, from life, is a very good mating strategy.
Islamic women are still women.
Islamic men are still men.

23 09 2014
Franklin

Alberto,

Your understanding of religion is poor. The Old Testament never endorsed slavery, it only regulated what was common at that time. And you actually don’t get the ethics behind religion, but I am not going to explain that here.

Only discriminating fools judge a quote by its source. Intelligent people judge quotes by their content. I have no problem reading quotes by Karl Marx. Also, belief and non-belief has nothing to do with the Old Testament which is primarily a book of ethics. And Ecclesiastes was an extreme skeptic.

Very few things are new. The main thing that is new is technology, and in fact it was technology (primarily the cotton gin), not advances in ethics, that eliminated slavery.

Freedom of speech was clearly standard in the Old Testament. Only very few things were not allowed like falsely testifying against people and cursing God. But there were no restrictions on the expression of ideas. This is considerably better than most recent cultures. The concept of heresy originated in Christianity. But no one in history hates free speech more than members of modern culture, which is why I am banned from every modernist forum I post to.

Understanding how to apply the laws of the Old Testament is far beyond your mental capacity to understand.

Marriage is (actually, should be) a contract, but not all contracts are marriage. Which contracts should qualify as message? This is a semantic question that is decided by law or religion. Modern culture completely lacks understanding of biology and evolution, so they define marriage is the most absurd way imaginable. The authors of the Old Testament clearly had an intuitive understanding of biology and evolution, and so they defined marriage sensibly as a contract where the primary obligation of the man is to provide and of the woman to be sexually faithful. I believe in individual freedom, so if a couple wants to make some strange sexual contract between themselves, that’s fine with me, but I won’t call it marriage.

The Romans invented divorce? Alberto, doesn’t your ignorance embarrass you?

23 09 2014
P Ray

Alberto is an “amateur pornmaker” who “doesn’t make porn for money”, but doesn’t intend to share it on redtube either …
which means he may be filming without consent OR
those women don’t want their past known.

Either way, FUNNY …

23 09 2014
survivingincel

Franklin, I am glad an individual like Alberto is posting on here to show how sick and deprave modern culture really is. As for this type of infidelity… Sharia law as well as the old testament make so much more sense now

23 09 2014
Mongo

@ franklin: I don’t care if it was invented in the neolithyc. I said Romans as I could have said “the people from The Past”. Who cares? The fact is that we have it and it’s good to have it because it’s needed.

” Heressy” could be invented by Christians, but ALL monotheistic religions make a good effort in silencing or killing the people who spoke in dissent to the major priests from it. And since all their laws came from “holy” texts, and thus, by God, the slightest deviation was blasphemy. Just imagine some jew bloke saying “hey, maybe we could eat this pig animals, all the other major religions eat them and they look ok”. Menu Blasphemy. Stoning for desserts.

And there are millions of new things in the world. Birth control, longer life expentancy, better communications and means of transport, universal education… Most are products of technology, but they imply deep social changes that make revealed stone age laws clearly stupid.

@ P Ray: I worked in porn and did my own artsy fartsy porn flicks aside. All models gave their consent because, believe it or not, they were part of the production team (they doubled as camera crew or editors if needed). The softer videos are in Vimeo, not Redtube. We even went to some festival in Berlin.

So your conclusions is at least inaccurate.

@surviving: I’m glad also to be the depraved saying that killing people with stones is a bad thing.

23 09 2014
Franklin

Mongo wrote:
“I don’t care if it was invented in the neolithyc. I said Romans as I could have said “the people from The Past”. Who cares? The fact is that we have it and it’s good to have it because it’s needed.”

And this was Ecclesiastes’s point, that people are ignorant of history and so they can’t learn from the past. One cannot debate with a person who is ignorant of history because they have no facts to use in debate. Their arguments are simply rationalizations of emotion. This is how modernists think and debate.

By the way, I am a “jew bloke” who eats “pig animals” while strictly following the Old Testament (because pigs are no longer unclean thanks to technology), and I haven’t been stoned yet.

23 09 2014
survivingincel

Stoning people who deserve to die is called justice

24 09 2014
P Ray

^ Stoning people who deserve it is justice,
but
justice can be bought or its effects mollified,
if you are rich enough.
Have you heard of the concept of “blood money” in the justice systems of Abrahmic religions?

23 09 2014
angelwanderer

I say good luck to him. It takes two to tango and unless they’re being raped I say she was good to go – and yep, fine, shag and shag as many as he can. Taping them isn’t a bad idea – just in case one of those bitches changes their minds later and want him to pay for something she previously agreed to.
Of course if their spouses found out he’d have to have fast legs. I know I wouldn’t block his path. -A

24 09 2014
eduardkoopman

i view mr. J. overall negatively when it comes to his charachter, because:
– he secretly tapes, which showes dishonesty and lack of integrity;
– needs the ego boost to show around/brag, which shows egotism;

Mr. J. didn’t tell the partners of the women he fucked that he wouldn’t do so. So in that sense I think we can’t blame him for this, although it doesn’t show having much class nor standard if you keep doing it over and over.

The women involveld in a commited relationship in this, I overall would view as:
– dishonest, lack of integrity, lack of compassion and liars.

5 11 2014
dfranfino28

Out of curiousity: What age groups are the women in the video? And what racial and religious backgrounds did you notice from ? This is so I can make a better judgment logic and culture and not just looking at sexual behaviors. This is just my opinion(and living in a very diverse part of LA)

5 11 2014
survivingincel

most of them are Indian and Nepalese. A number of them are mexican and east asian as well. He told me he usually don’t go for white girls.

8 04 2015
Koreaninusa

This is a really stupid question you’re asking. First, is this story even true. Either he could be lying, or you could be lying. Or maybe he (or you) is exaggerating his exploits.

Second, assuming his story is true, do you seriously expect anyone to praise what he’s doing? You have some really screwed up values to even offer the possibility that what he’s doing is praiseworthy.

What if this guy is copulating with your wife? Or the wife of a family member or close friend of yours? How would you feel then? Do you really believe he is leading by example? Honestly, you should get your head examined.

13 04 2015
survivingincel

I never said I have positive views about his actions, I am asking the public. I expect people to react negatively, but as you can see from the poll, a significant people are very envious of his life style. I do live in America, after all.

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