My father is right in retrospect, Franklin might be wrong in some cases, some thoughts…

22 06 2014

As stated before coming from a first generation Asian American background, the older generation seldom want to hear what us younger generation has to say. In regards to man incel problems that plague the Asian/Indian men community in the west, my father gave the typical answer I expect him to say: “as long as you have money you can do everything you please, as long as you make money all your problems are solvable.” What he fail to answer is that incels in the west typically have an aptitude for math and science, many of us work in the field of Engineering(such as the indian roomate of 3rd world hero) so money isn’t a problem then why is it that the same decent men who make money remain incel?

 

In retrospect, after some analysis of what Franklin said and what my father said, they are indeed still correct. The major difference between the choosing criteria of women in Feminist vs Non-Feminist countries, is their sexual promiscuity. Women in feminist countries tend to value looks and swagger at young age thus will ride the cock carousel with the tall muscular jockeys and the handsome badboys. After they get pumped and dumped when they are older they will start to value men with money more. At the same time the women from non-feminist societies will value men with money from the beginning, and they will not ride the cock-carousel of handsome bad boys.

 

Such choosing criteria can be seen in Asian women, where they will typically look for men that DOESN’T have masculine qualities but at the same time HAVE money (the effeminate rich man) so they can manipulate those men and use them for their money. Essentially they will value money from the effeminate man (long term) above the hot sex with the jockey (short term), where as their western counter part will choose the complete opposite.

 

As any reasonable individual can see, money is important in both feminist and non-feminist countries. The bad news here, is that there are selective few incels who are in non-STEM fields, and would less likely to have money, thus making them bad choice for mates even in non-feminist countries. Franklin advocate incels to go abroad as most incels have money due to their aptitude in math and science, it does not work for incels that don’t excel in those areas. 





Reading Elliot Rodger’s Manifesto, some thoughts

29 05 2014

I recently read the early parts of Elliot Rodger’s manifesto. Needless to say his story sparked a lot of thoughts and emotions from me. Similar to myself, video games was a central part of his life in the younger years. Like him, I was obsessed with the latest console and technology. I had a non-existent social life in high-school except for the few I spoke with at the lunch period of misfits. I spent most of my time in game during my out of school hours, and it just seems that everything else in life are just things that got in the way between me and my games. Later video games became a major distraction for me in my academic pursuits as my obsession with it made me have trouble budgeting my time. It seems to me, many incels have video game addiction, even Aziz Shavershian before this transformation. I am wondering what-if Elliot made the same choice Shavershian did. Elliot was short and weak, only if he sold his WOW account for a gym membership.

 

What also struck me is that even though in his manifesto he talk of school experiences, he mostly mentions girls, friends, hobbies and popularity. Never once did I read about anything related to the academics. When I went to school, when I did not obsess with video games I thought of academic studies. Things like girls, fashion, sports, and popularity almost never occurred to me. When my peers busting their butts pursuing beer and pussy in college I was actually baffled at their obsession, as video games and school work occupied most of my thoughts. It wasn’t until I was in graduate school did I realize I had “girl problems”. Perhaps the eastern values I mention before had saved my sanity as long as it had…





Elliot Rodgers

24 05 2014

 

some of PUAHate posters already beat me in posting this.  It seems that he is a PUAHate poster as well. I am wondering..If he lived, how much love letters and nude photos will he get in prison/deathrow. We all know western women love violent psychopaths… He should do what I did and go fuck whores instead. Sex for money is the most honest transaction you will ever make with a western woman. Lets hope them retards turn this into another gun control issue and leave us incels out of the media.





The Art of Whore

19 04 2014

The Art of Whore: Why Betas Marry Leftovers by Leap of a Beta” Originally Posted on May 21 at 12 AM as a gift to you from Professor Mentu

Bottom-feeding scum sucking Cory Catfish, thy name is beta.

Thank you for cleaning the algae and fecal remains of bigger, stronger, faster fish from the pond of society. You are the homeless guy I give my leftovers to, packaged in a glossy takeout box from a restaurant you could never afford. You, beta, are the malleable putty that fills the karmic gap between what she wants and what she deserves. If ever there was an exultant scavenger, a happy beggar, or a willful fool foraging through the rotting leftovers of discarded femdom like a soon-to-be-roadkill raccoon, it’s you. Thank you for your service.

  • A man with options would never put a ring on a anger that’s been wrapped around a dozen cocks.
  • A man with options would never pay the ultimate price of commit for a born again virgin fucktoy.
  • A man with options would never let his son’s first home be a womb that has seen more trafic than I-35 during rush hour.
  • A man with options would never allow the first kiss his newborn son receives to come from lips that have hosted lotsa cocka.
  • A man with options would never let his son’s first nourishment come from breasts that can be viewed on any number of cell phone cameras.
  • A man with options would never let his son’s first throne be the lap of a woman who has been passed around like a blunt at a frat party.
  • A man with options would never be a dickstand for a woman who squandered her youth and beauty on the men who respected her the least.
  • A man with options would never consider being the last man standing at the end of the long line of conquests she racked up while being the Grand Marshal of a rather impressive cock parade.

Do men with options pass up on whores because of religious ethics? Sometimes. Do men with options pass up on whores because a promiscuous lifestyle stunts a woman’s ability to bond with her husband and children?

I reckon. Do men with options avoid committing to whores because of social pride? I certainly hope so. But there’s one gloriously simple, easy to define and even easier to defend reason why men with options do not marry whores: They don’t have to.

Beta males have four primary deficits when it comes to making sound relationship decisions, which leads them to permanently settle down with Gangbang Barbie after the rest of us are done with her. The Art of Whore: Why Betas Marry Leftovers

1) Their inability to identify a whore/slut due to lack of experience.

Thanks to a lack of experience with women, betas believe that a whore is a filthy girl who will sleep with anybody. When their pea-sized brains conjure up the idea of a whore, they imagine a woman who stops a red light, sees a man waiting at a bus stop, and has an unbelievable urge to put the car in park and go bang him. Betas think a whore is a girl who goes out to the bar four nights per week and bangs four different men. Dead wrong.

With this deffnition of whore, it’s no wonder betas defend women – they never see a whore. But in reality, whores are selective. In fact, they’re probably the most selective women in the mating market.

The Art of Whore is displayed by women who harness their sexual power and unleash it with stunning accuracy on the men at the top of the social hierarchy – often in a serially monogamous fashion (with a few “mistakes” along the way for good measure).

Wake up, beta. That nice girl in your social group who has a different boyfriend every three or four months on average, has casual hookups on vacation, and has that “special friend” who keeps her warm at night between boyfriends is a two-bit worthless whore. “But wait, Mentu! Most girls do that these days!” Now you’re getting it. Walk with me.

Whore is not about a number; it’s about her decision-making abilities and the value she assigns to sexual congress. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, so the men she lets through the gates – regardless of how many or how few – tells you everything you need to know about her relationship value. I don’t care if she’s slept with 5 men or 50 men; her sexual past reveals her relationship worth and ability to make sound decisions.

Take for instance a healthy 28 year old woman. In my experience, your average American woman has had anywhere between 12 and 23 sexual partners by this time. Let’s call it an average of 17. A reasonable man would not assume that all 17 men dumped her, or that she dumped all 17; a myriad of reasons, situations, emotions and circumstances led her to this place. So what does this tell us?

It tells us that a number of men just had fun with her (promiscuity), she had to bounce a number of men after she opened her womb to them (bad decision making), and a number of men sampled a mini relationship with her for a while and decided not to keep her around (low value).

So, beta, which of those three traits – promiscuity, bad decision making, and low value – would you like to have instilled in your children? Which of those traits do you believe will make her an excellent wife? Which of these traits do you believe will not increase your likelihood of being cheated on or landing in divorce court? Can you see yourself waking up in the morning, rolling over, looking at her and thinking “Thank God I’ve committed to a worthless whore who has a 15 year long track record of making bad decisions?” Of course not. But this leads us to the 2nd primary defficit of the beta:

2) Their susceptibility to shaming language.

Betas cower in fear and quickly acquiesce when confronted with shaming language. “I’m not like that anymore”, “You can’t judge me”, and “A woman’s worth is not decided by her sexual past” seem to be the go-to responses for women who find themselves in the awkward situation of justifying why they’ve banged more men than can be comfortably seated in a small Family Diner.

For the record, the correct responses are “yes you are”, “yes I can”, and when it comes to marriage, “yes it is.” Does promiscuity make her a bad employee? Nope. Does it make her a bad friend? Nah. Does it make her an evil person who is likely to knock over a liquor store and steal a getaway car? Not at all.

Does a promiscuous past mean she can’t do good in the community and make profound societal contributions? Of course not. Does it make her a high-risk marriage partner and a shitty role model for your children in a society built around the family unit instead of the “it takes a village” approach?

According to the church, the Centers for Disease Control, your buddy who laughs at you behind your back, biological evidence, gender anthropologists, a growing number of psychologists, your own gut instincts, and yours truly, yes it most certainly does.

It always amazes me how betas will agree with a woman that her past education reveals her dedication to scholarly pursuits, her past work experience reveals her quest to improve her business acumen, her past payment history reveals her credit worthiness, her past workout routine reveals her desire for a healthy lifestyle, and her past volunteer efforts reveal her heart of gold, but her past sexual habits reveal absolutely nothing. That, my beta friend, is The Art of Whore.

If you buy in to that shit, you deserve whatever ill may befall you.

3) Their unnatural dedication to the female definition of “fairness.”

Here’s where the rubber meets the road for bottom-feeding beta males.

We’’ve all heard the statement “It’s not fair that a woman who sleeps around is a whore, but men who sleep around are studs.” There’s been more than enough digital ink spilled on this topic in the manosphere, so I won’t go in to it. Everybody knows it’s easy to be a whore, but hard to be a player – and society doesn’t award trophies for doing easy shit. It’s not a double standard; it’s two different standards for two different genders with two different barriers to sexual entry and two different sets of risk factors.

But forget that for a moment. For the sake of this article, let’s assume that the woman’s statement is true. That’s right, let’s assume for a moment that there is an unfair evil double standard afoot.

What the fuck do you care?

If you’re a beta male looking for marriage, it’s not your job to be fair – this is your life, not a general assembly at the UN. Your job is to and the best mother for your children that you possibly can.

It doesn’t matter if you banged 5,000 women on camera last night; you need to and the most competent, capable, qualifed, trustworthy, physically and emotionally stable woman you possibly can to help raise your children.

Let her worry about your past and whether or not she thinks you’re qualifed to be their father, and you focus on her qualifcations.

Come to think of it, that’s actually quite fair, wouldn’t you say?

4) Their lack of options.

When it comes to liaising with whores, Alphas are volunteers, and betas are voluntolds. The Art of Whore is not lost on the Alpha male – they volunteer to use them for what they’re good for, then pass them of to betas who are voluntold to put a ring on their anger.

Beta, your lack of options is making you weak, distorting your judgment, and may eventually land your pansy ass in divorce court. The Art of Whore is real, and women work to better their craft every day. What have you done lately besides make excuses for her?

Women proficient in The Art of Whore get what they want: A decade-long ride on the cock carousel with no consequences, then a willing hapless beta with open arms, an open mind, and an open wallet to cushion their landing and finance their recovery.

As long as you’re standing there ready, willing and able, I honestly can’t say that I blame them for taking you up on your generous offer.

This entry was posted in The Empty Halls of University of Man and tagged Masculine Frame, Shame the Beta.





more polls, asking same questions, do you agree with PuaHate?

11 04 2014

A common topic discussed on PUAHate , it is often said that personality and looks are not disjoint as we believe. They claim that bad boys are just good looking guys who act with their options. They are assholes because they can AFFORD to act like assholes due to their good looks. Where as nice guys are typically guys who tries to overcompensate their lack of looks by acting nice and accommodating. Thus, ugly bad boys and handsome nice guys are both very rare. Do you agree?





Believable scenario?

28 03 2014

It has already been established that the American feminist society does not value decent men, where moral and intelligent men have the lowest sexual market value, do you guys see significant amount of moral decent men, particularly Asian/Indian Americans, expatriating? Will an “exodus” happen?





The Asian masculinity Subreddit

21 02 2014

http://www.reddit.com/r/asianmasculinity

recently I have discovered a subreddit thats focused on the discussion of issues of masculinity and men issues amongst asian americans, where it is described as “the only subreddit that focus on issues of Asian men, by Asian men, thats not moderated by feminist sell-out Asian women fucking white men.” While I am glad more Asian men are waking up to the red-pill reality, and I am also glad to see that the last bastion of Asian masculinity did not die with Chingis Khan and Bruce Lee, I am still disturbed by certain issues.

Typical stories from the subreddit, akin to the Model Minority forum , focus on the anger towards the disproportional ratio of sell out Asian women going after white men, how hollywood racist media unsex the Asian male, then came the talks on “gaming women” that differs very little from the discussions of PUAs. Typical story follows this type of structure:

I am raised by traditional Asian parents to be a wimpy, scrawny, math nerd with aspergers that plays violin, then through years of incel through high school and college I was shy and did not have the courage to talk to girls, then I woke up to reality and started to lift weights, after gaining muscles I learned to game women, etc.

They have missed the core of the single problem that plagues the Asian community in the west: When Asian values collide with western culture, there will only be incel men and sell out women in our community.

As I have posted before, it is NOT a coincidence that Asians take up Ivy League schools even with affirmative action working against them, where we excel in the topic of math, science, and engineering, we are also the group that struggles the most on the dating scene. What can you expect of a group of scrawny math nerds taught by their parents to be the model minority and the provider, living in a culture of casual sex and hook ups which clearly favors the muscular jockey, and the thugs with 6 pack abs?

Some of their criticism of Asian culture is very valid(emphasis on academic pursuits instead of  physical fitness, lacking of masculine quality in young asian men because they are raised mostly by their mothers, etc.) perhaps those guys need to stop and think:

why is it that mathematicians, engineers, and scientists need to learn “game” to be successful with women, while the thug that murdered people by the gun, knife, and bare hands then dealt drugs, don’t have to do any of that BS to get harems of women? Perhaps western society is sick and deprived?





Are incel men actually a silent MAJORITY?

28 01 2014

on PUAHate and the loveshy forums, there are often arguments on what population of men are actually pure incel. Many claims the 80-20 rule, as women in our society are attracted to 20% of the best looking population of men, while the 80% either becomes the provider, learn to “game” or be incel.

According to the study on Love-shyness by Brian G. Gilmartin, 2% of the adult male population in the USA are virgin loveshies. That was in the 1980s when the study had been done. For the past few years I get to travel around the USA to many states from coast to coast, I seem to encounter many perpetual single men like myself everywhere I go. So my question is, the 80-20 correct? What do you guys think?

If I am the only incel on the planet, then I would say the problem is with me. But if I encounter incel men everywhere in all parts of this country, it shows that the problem isn’t with me, but the problem is with the fucked up western society.

However, if we are indeed a silent majority, why isn’t this a problem being addressed in the media?





a poll concerning the rare topic on personality

15 11 2013

It is established by many of the “red pillers” as PUAHate posters call them, that men who are the most successful on the dating market are in fact handsome badboys, while incels are their polar opposites, the ugly nice guys.  Indeed, death row inmates get love letters and nude photos from women, where as nerds from the school of Engineering and department of theoretical physics don’t.

the PUA gurus argue that confidence is what attracts women, and studies has shown that violent criminals think very highly of themselves, thus have a lot confidence and self esteem. The commenter Franklin, claims that due to radical feminism in the west women are in fact attracted to immoral, irresponsible, and criminal men.

personally, I have noticed that the type of criminal the western woman is attracted to are the joe-six-pack dumb thug, drug dealing BLUE COLLAR criminal, not the INTELLIGENT, scheming types(Adolf Hitler did not get much popularity from the ladies BEFORE he gained political power, joe-six-pack gets tail regardless of how much political power he has).

I would also predict that PUAHate posters will claim that the reason WHY women are attracted to thugs is that they have high testosterone thus are tall, athletic, have square jaw and have masculine (DOM) looks. Which of the choices do you agree with more? comments?

 





a few posts from loveshy forum, possibily reposts from PUAHate

4 10 2013

Part 1:

“don’t know if science is allowed on this forum or if certain things are found offensive here, so please let me know if I am offending anyone.

I will say this briefly:

Women probably enjoy sex more than men. The clitoris has more nerve endings than the penis head. Women can have multiple orgasms. Most women have clitoral orgasms which are akin to penile ones, but women can also have vaginal orgasms which are deeper and longer lasting. There is no doubt that women can enjoy sex more than men, given enough arousal and a “pro” male partner.

Having said that, women’s sex drives are lower. Women want sex, but have more demands on it than men. Women will generally not (can I swear on here?) f*ck an unattractive man. Men will f*ck a woman he considers unattractive coz of his higher sex drive.

It’s this difference in drive that determines the Western dating market place. Men are ten-a-penny. Women are more valuable in the dating scene. Vagina is a scarce commodity. Dating could be considered a man buying his way into a woman’s pants while the woman decides if she will let him. The ball is in the female’s court as she is the chooser. Men do the approaching (of women). Women do the rejecting or accepting.

Biologically, it makes sense for the woman to be choosier – she has to pay a higher price for pregnancy. 9 months of vulnerability. Then childbirth. Then 18 years of raising the child. The man’s investment is over in minutes and he is free to plant a seed elsewhere after the refractory period.

For this reason, it is more common for an incel to be male than female. A male needs to be physically attractive and/or have money and/or have status to attract a woman in many cases. How many guys do you know that won’t date a woman because she doesn’t have a car or lives with her parents?

For a male to be incel, all he needs to be is average or below in looks. For a female to be incel, she needs to be really unattractive by western standards, or old. Because men have lower standards for women.

I distinguish between loveshy and incel. Incel IMO implies that you have been ACTIVELY seeking a dating partner as in APPROACHING potential suitors. Loveshy implies you can’t bring yourself to approach, so you expect suitors to come to you.

Do women consider themselves loveshy even if they haven’t approached many guys for dating?

Men, after rejections, are told to “man up” and go through more. It is not acceptable for a man to be hypoagent in his dating life. It is expected for a woman to be so, though.

Men and women are not “equal” in the dating world. There are more incel men here than women. That should tell you something.

Women can get sex easier than ordering a coffee at Starbucks. But many women would prefer a relationship. They can get that easier than a man can too.

Why do clubs charge women less entry? Because men flock to where women are. Women have a high sexual value. Men are like cockroaches trying to find a woman that will accept him. Men usually have to date down if they want to increase their likelihood of finding a date.

If this thread is deleted then that confirms that I am right but you need to be protected from the truth. Before I get in trouble for this, it would be nice if someone could provide counterarguments to these points. “

Part 2:

“I’m new here so I don’t wanna upset the applekart just yet, but when the mods are sure I’m not a troll, I’ll try and post some of the chatlogs from a fake male model dating profile. It’s INSANE. My opening line to one girl – to test how far this goes – was that I was going to k*ll myself, and I got her number, eventually. She said “I usually hate guys with topless pics”, but I guess the male model’s FACE overrode that. If your face makes a woman’s clit throb, then, to an extent, it doesn’t matter what you say, as long as you’re not a boring/asperger/psycopath.

Ironically, a woman can be a boring AND an asperger AND a psycopath and date TENS of guys per week.

I had one gf in my life. She was 19, I was 26 when I met her. I was her 9th bf. After me, she had at least 2 more bf’s that I know of. This isn’t including one night stands. I’ve been INCEL ever since.

A woman can walk into a supermarket and ask if anyone wants to date or f*ck her and she’ll get “yesses”. The only reason she’d get rejected is coz men would think it’s too good to be true.

An average looking man can’t even go to a bar twice a week for 2 months and hope to get a date or lay unless he approaches 250 lb burns victims (no offence to burns victims).”

Part 3:

“The male sex drive compared to that of females means that men seek it out more than women. Women love sex but are less driven to get it. Men will settle for a woman that isn’t his type just for that intimacy. For women, dating is a buyer’s market. A penis is worth nothing. Buy none, get 10,000 free. Vagina is worth more than a human life. A man might kill another man for looking at his girlfriend. Worth more than a human life.

- My friend J (about a 5 or 6 in looks) is dating a girl, L (about a 3). She is below his looks level but I guess he got tired of 8 years of inceldom, so decided that she would suffice.

- L has a friend, D. D is borderline fat but looks good when thin (I’ve seen old pics of her).

Long story short, J and L said that D kept talking about me after all four us met up once. She called me “eye candy” despite me being quite ugly. I was happy and thinking of asking her out until I found out that:

- she is still fucking her athletic ex bf
- she is fucking 2 other guys on the side
- she gets numerous offers for dates all the time.

This is what life is like for women under 40 who aren’t hideously ugly. Women get so many offers from guys. Soon enough, women are going to have so many options that they will be able to afford to be blatant about it. “If you don’t want to be one of my boyfriends, then, fine. Boyfriend slot #5 can be filled by a hot guy that I recently met”.

Once, my mother stuck her head out of the window for some air, and a guy said some romantic comment. My mother is 58. Fair enough, the guy was no Tyson Beckford or David Beckham but that’s pretty good going for not even having left your house.

There is a conjoined twin in the US. One of the twin sisters is engaged. Meanwhile the guys on this forum don’t share a communal anus with their brother, yet can barely get dates.

An authentic female incel is a female who is either:

- hideously deformed in some way (burns, limbs missing)
- tremendously overweight
- looks really old
- has psychological or relationship issues (e.g. abuse in her past; has 3 kids from 3 guys, etc)
- avoids being seen outside of going to work and food-shopping

Apart from that, a woman who calls herself incel really means “I can’t date guys who at the very least look like Robert Pattinson. I don’t need a George Clooney or Brad Pitt. Pattinson will suffice”. And these women look like Rosie O’Donnell.

So females rule the dating world. Women spend their youth, getting hit on by guys and accepting or rejecting them based on their looks. A female life is like that of a hollywood celebrity. Such dating power you will never experience unless your looks can make women’s genitals tingle.

As most men are incel and most females aren’t, women are able to set the market price in dating. The price now is that you (usually) must, as a male, in order to date a woman, have your own place, a good job, good looks, not be balding, be tall, have friends, drive preferrably, be confident(-looking), be funny, be dominant, etc.

Soon, the price will go up. Soon you will have to: – take on kids she had with her alpha ex boyfriend, – accept her other boyfriends, – pay her mortgage, – have a body like Dwayne Johnson, etc.

Are you ready for the future of dating?

Of course you’re not. You can’t even deal with dating as it is now.

Any male who disagrees with me but can’t attract women is in denial.
Any female who disagrees with this won’t be able to provide counterarguments.

The truth offends and is often banned and deleted.

Deal with it.”








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